In this episode, I interview Cody Lee, who’s a follower of mine and recent graduate of my 90-day transformation coaching service, which helped him lose 18 pounds of fat AND gain muscle and strength.

Before finding his way to me and my work, he was a new dad who was overweight and unhappy with his body, and unsure what to do about it.

Then, he found my book Bigger Leaner Stronger, gave it a read and figured he might as well try it, and, waddayaknow, it actually worked. Week by week, he was getting noticeably bigger, leaner, and stronger, and he was thrilled.

After riding the wave of newbie gains, Cody wanted to see if he could get even more out of his diet and training, and so he decided to sign up for my one-on-one coaching service. My team put together a custom diet and exercise program specifically for him and his goals, and it exceeded all his expectations.

He not only lost a whopping 18 pounds of fat in 90 days, but he also gained strength and corrected his technique on key lifts, which is still paying dividends.

Cody walks us through the whole story in this interview and shares the big lessons he learned along the way, so if you’re in the middle of your own transformation, then I think you’re going to find it encouraging and motivating.

TIME STAMPS:

4:38 – What was your background in fitness and what were you hoping to achieve?

10:27 – After reading Bigger Leaner Stronger, how did the program go?

12:11 – What did you like the most out of flexible dieting and shorter workouts?

16:33 – What made you interested in our coaching service?

21:06 – How did our coaching program go for you?

24:33 – How did you feel after 90 days on our coaching program?

27:18 – How has our program effected other areas of your life?

What did you think of this episode? Have anything else to share? Let me know in the comments below!

Transcript:

Cody Lee: [00:00:00] The weight started falling off. I started feeling better about myself. You could definitely start seeing it more in my arms and my shoulders. Like I immediately started changing it. My waistline went down. I was crazy.

Mike Matthews: Boys and girls, this is Mike. And I’m back with another episode of the most for life podcast. This time I interview Cody Lee, who is a follower of mine and recent graduate of my 90 day transformation coaching service, which helped him lose 18 pounds of fat and gain a bit of muscle and strength along the way as well.

Now, before he found his way to me and my work, he was a new dad who was overweight and unhappy with his body and kind of unsure as to what to do about it. Previously he had tried different types of resistance training programs and cardio and you name it, and really wasn’t happy with how it went previously and so just didn’t know what to do.

Then he found my book, Bigger, Leaner, Stronger, while browsing around on Amazon, [00:01:00] if I remember correctly. And he gave it a read and he figured that, Hey you might as well try it. It seems to make sense. And what do you know? It actually worked week by week. He was getting noticeably bigger, leaner and stronger, and he was absolutely thrilled.

So he rode those newbie gains for a bit. And when they were. all used up. He wanted to see if he could get even more out of his diet and training. And so he decided to sign up for my one on one coaching service. My team put together a custom diet and exercise program specifically for him and his goals and helped him execute it.

And the results have exceeded all of his expectations. Again, he lost 18 pounds of fat in just 90 days. And he also gained strength and corrected his technique on key lifts. Which is still paying dividends now that he’s done with the coaching. So in this interview, Cody, he walks us through this whole story, and he shares the big lessons that he has learned along the way.

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Hey, Cody, thanks for coming on the show. I appreciate it. So I’m excited to talk to you because this is going to be like a series that I’m going to be doing. And I figured I would speak mainly with coaching clients just because one, it obviously helps promote the coaching service, but two, it’s just a very hands on kind of process.

personal high touch service. So there’s a lot that people can talk about in terms of their experience of going through it. I could also talk to people that read the books and just did the programs, but this [00:04:00] way, I have a lot more information in terms of who everybody is and where they’re at and what they did.

So I’m excited to just jump into it with you. And let you explain to everybody where you’re at before you found your way into my orbit and how you found me, how the coaching service was, what your experiences were and so forth. 

Cody Lee: Awesome. Yeah. It’s a wonderful story. 

Mike Matthews: Yeah. So let’s hear it. So tell us and tell me what’s your background in terms of fitness.

How long have you been into working out? Why did you get into it? What were you hoping to achieve? How was it going? And so forth. 

Cody Lee: Yeah. All my life I was pretty much like the skinny kid and even in college I actually was on the the A& M Taekwondo team. So I was super lean. I was down to one 55, one 60, something around there.

And I’m six two, so that’s pretty lean. It was always a part of it of my life. And then after college master’s degree, let, let things go. Family came in, met my wonderful wife who I love. We had a kid and I joke about it. I think I gained more weight than she did during the [00:05:00] pregnancy.

I’m pretty sure I did because I was always the one, Hey, do you want some ice cream? And she’s no, 

Mike Matthews: that, that would have been, that would have been my wife. She, I, it wasn’t me asking if she wants to eat ice cream, but that she would have been that person too. Yeah, no, I’m good. I’m trying to gain as little fat as possible so I can fit into all my clothes as soon as possible after having the baby.

Cody Lee: Yeah. So yeah, I got dad bought pretty bad and it had been several years, so almost not quite a decade, but a while since I’d like seriously worked out and really paid attention to my health. And it was about a year in after it, we had my son was born and everything was awesome.

And I love my son and it’s a year, he’s a year old and he was turning about a year. Actually, it was right before his birthday. And I remember just thinking to myself, it’s you know what? I don’t want to be unable to play with my son when I get older. I don’t want to be that dad. It’s I can’t keep up with the son.

It’s puffing and breathing with, if my son was to play baseball or football or basketball or soccer or whatever, right? So it was that was like the turning moment. I was like, you know what? I know I need to take care of my health. I want to be healthy for me, just a good healthy life with my son, [00:06:00] be able to play with him, be able to do all those things that I’d like to be able to 

Mike Matthews: do to be a good dad, yeah, I totally understand. There’s probably also something to be said for setting a good example as well, right? Yeah, 

Cody Lee: definitely. It’s something that I hope that he’ll pick up over time, he’s still too young. He’s only two years old right now. I think you’ll appreciate it. Assuming I keep it up, which I don’t think I won’t stop keeping it up now that everything that I’ve learned from your program, it’s just amazing how much more in 

Mike Matthews: control of my health I feel.

That’s great. And okay, so you decided to do something about it. And now where did you go from there? 

Cody Lee: I think I had spent about a month and a half just researching. So I’m actually a software engineer by day, but my background was in mechanical engineering, so researching is not abnormal for me. I spent a lot of time doing that and I just kept looking up articles.

I ran a bunch of bogus articles. I can’t even tell you how much bogus hype that I ran across. And I don’t remember how I found muscle for life, but I found a blog post that you made and I was like, okay. You know what? I’ll look at it. It seemed legit. And I was like yeah, it’s a book, and I have an Audible credit.

I was like, you know what? It doesn’t hurt. And [00:07:00] it’s one of those things I did. And, I just got hooked on the book, and it was great, because the one thing that stood out to me was the fact that your books were pretty much no BS. You were citing your sources, and I could actually go look up your sources.

So for me, that was like, okay, this guy’s legit. He seems to know what he’s talking about. There’s something to it. What do I have to lose to give his program a shot? Everything seemed to make sense. It was backed up by articles. I didn’t feel like there was a lot of hype to it. It was one of those, did I just stumble across the thing that I needed to see?

And that’s what it felt like. I like that. Yeah, 

Mike Matthews: so then how’d it go from there? So you’re like, okay, I’ll give it a try. 

Cody Lee: Yeah. So I was like, all right, let’s give it a try. I actually listened to the whole book and then I had purchased the book too. So I think I’ve bought your book like three times, but Score.

Mike Matthews: I actually do the same thing. Like I read digitally exclusively now just because, it’s too enticing that you can have all your highlights and notes sync to the cloud, all devices for all time. But I also listen to audio books, which allows me to get through more, just get through more material, cause you probably do the same thing.

If you’re walking your dog, if you are making [00:08:00] food or if you are driving somewhere or whatever, you can, just be productive or, learn something in that time. So then first, what I actually do is I use a Blinkist or get abstract to go through the summary of the book. Cause I figure if I don’t like a book summary, I’m, if I’m not like making some highlights and if I don’t at least have.

A light bulb flickering. And when I go through a book summary, I’m not going to like the book just because there’s an opportunity cost reading and reading books. There’s, it’s a time investment and it’s pretty annoying. I don’t know. I, that’s how I get, I’m annoyed if I, even if it’s just putting 10 hours into a book where I’m like, great, maybe I have three takeaways from that book that are worth anything.

So I do a book summary first. And if I liked the book summary, then I read the book, but I do the Kindle and the audio book. So then I can flip back and forth. I read the Kindle at random times at night from standing in lines. If I’m going to the bathroom, whatever, I’ll just read, but then you can audio book.

And if if you stumble on something you want to highlight or make a note, you can always just pause it and flip back to the Kindle. 

Cody Lee: Yep. Mine’s actually very similar. So yeah, I read the summary, try to figure out what’s available. It’s like almost [00:09:00] like a cheat sheet on what the book’s about. I almost usually will Audible at first, and then I’ll listen to it.

So I have like a long standing rule that I’ve had since college, maybe even high school, is once I’ve read a book or listened to a book for the first time, I’ll listen to it again for a second time or read it for a second time. And then on the third time, like I’ll just put sticky notes in there or soft notes, something that can be erased.

And the third time that I read a book is when I start hard writing notes straight into the book. In the meantime I put spacing between the time that I read the book, between the time that I read it the next time, and the next time, because in my opinion, You don’t really understand what’s going on with the book and how it relates to your life and how you should use it until you’ve had other information outside of the book.

Even that’s not, that’s not within the book. Sure. Just expands it. And that’s that’s really worked really well for me in multiple areas. And so that was my approach to it. That’s clever. I like it. So you go through the book and you decide, okay, I’m going to give this a try and how did it go?

Oh my gosh, it was it was great in the long run, it was great, but the first month was sore, I had worked out in [00:10:00] forever, but I was like, you know what, it was low as a nose I’m gonna be really sore, and I just know it. And my wife was like, Yeah, I don’t think you’re gonna make it.

She didn’t think I was gonna make it. And she’s real with me. And so I love her for that. She’s down to earth real with me. She’s I didn’t think you were gonna make it. I was just sore all over. And I was like, oh man. I know I can get through the doms. I can get through it. And then, it shouldn’t be as bad.

It shouldn’t be as bad. And sure enough, I just stuck to it, willpower and kind of determination, just get through it. It just, the weight started falling off. I started feeling better about myself. You could definitely start seeing it more in my arms and my shoulders. Like I immediately started changing it.

My waistline went down. It’s crazy. Like I started off at a very snug fit for a size 38 men’s pants. Today I’m like a few months ago, I had bought some size 32s and they were like decently, like they weren’t snug, but they weren’t like super loose. Now they feel super loose. So I think I’d probably like a size 30 or maybe or something like that.

It’s crazy. 

Mike Matthews: Yeah, 

Cody Lee: that’s huge.

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Cody Lee: Yeah, I had actually started off just doing the program on myself using the the BLS phase one.

So I had bought that I had done the macro planning one. I started off actually in a meal plan and then to more of a reference guide for adjusting my meal plans afterwards because my weight was going down. So my TD was changing and everything was changing. So I learned what you didn’t from that and was, it was adjusting it for a while, [00:12:00] but it was about six months in seven months in or something like that.

Is when I started saying, okay, these weights are getting heavy. And I knew my form wasn’t good. Like I felt way better than when I started. 

Mike Matthews: So in, in the beginning there, what did you like most about, so let’s say over the first couple of months you start seeing the changes and what did you like most about the experience of flexible dieting and shorter workouts, more intense workouts compound lifting and so forth versus things you had tried in the past.

Cody Lee: I think the biggest thing for me was I had tried a few different workouts, fail attempts before trying that. What kind of stuff had you tried previously? It was a lot of like super set giant set things like that or like extreme cardio just like hours and hours of cardio and you know I’d fall off the bandwagon within the first week or two just because it just it didn’t feel sustainable It was like I hate this.

I don’t want to do this. Yeah, and it was one of those, you know It was immediately like I hate this. I don’t want to do This thing’s not for me and it was like I got to find something else kind of thing. Yep it was a lot of that and everybody goes through that at some point probably and it’s just natural but [00:13:00] when I found the BLS and I gave it a shot, of course I was sore at Dom’s but doing the workout I didn’t feel exhausted, it was hard and I felt like I was actually doing something But I wasn’t like out of breath, why am I doing this?

I hate my life. It was this is really difficult and hard and I feel like I’m accomplishing something and it’s wow I didn’t even believe I could do that before and like I was like at first my weights were low But I didn’t even think I could do that and It was almost immediately the weight started I was able to just keep adding weight, week after week newbie gains sure, but I was able to gain week after week and the whole time I was doing it, I felt really good the whole time.

Like I was like, wow, I actually really enjoy this. It was literally like a second month in. I remember just looking at my wife and saying, I actually really enjoy this workout program. Like it’s weird. It’s a weird feeling. 

Mike Matthews: Yeah, I totally know what you mean. I’ve been there myself. I went through the same experience, so I totally know what you mean.

And I think there’s actually, that’s one of the underappreciated aspects of not just my [00:14:00] program, but well designed strength training programs, which is primarily what it is. It’s a hybrid between a strength training and a bodybuilding program, but is that How much you enjoy your workouts is a big part of the game because similar to, with diets, it’s the best diet in many ways, the best diet is the one you can stick to.

That logic also applies to training because if you had, let’s say, you’d say there was a program that scientifically speaking was the most optimized program you could possibly have for gaining muscle and strength. You hated doing it. You didn’t like the workouts. They were too long. You had to be the gym too much.

You had that experience where every time you’re in the gym doing a workout, you’re like, why am I here? And you’re trying to remind yourself, this is why I’m suffering. This is why I’m doing it. Compliance is just going to erode over time. But on the flip side, if you have a workout that you enjoy, even if it were not a hundred percent [00:15:00] optimal.

And it’s not so it’s not, I’m saying that my program isn’t a hundred percent optimal. I would say it isn’t no program. We don’t even know what a hundred percent optimal is at this point. Let’s be real. But even if you knew a program, It was not optimal in one way or another, but you really enjoyed it.

There’s something to be said for that. 

Cody Lee: Yeah. Oh yeah. I definitely agree. Like it wasn’t just enjoying the workout program that was significant. It was also enjoying just the dieting part of it. So before it was like, Oh, you gotta eat a bunch of salad, you gotta eat a bunch of greens or you just gotta, Cut out carbs you gotta just eat just a shit ton of whey protein It’s that’s great and all but everyone keeps changing it up and it’s you know What’s the real deal and I love that about your books was you had a dedicated section to dieting and what’s real?

What’s fake? What’s actually known and what’s you know still like pseudoscience or just totally garbage, right? And so it was very informative and that’s like working out knowing how to work out is half only half the battle and so knowing how to diet is the other half You I must say that the last whole piece, because it’s 200 percent is [00:16:00] actually putting your effort towards it, but having the right diet and enjoying your diet, it being flexible enough that you’ll enjoy the food that you’re getting.

Is well worth it and knowing that if you slip up, it’s not the world and even planning in cheat days like you talk about. Yep. 

Mike Matthews: So you’re doing that. And then how do you go from there to the coaching service? 

Cody Lee: That was actually great. So I was, Oh, by the way, how was your wife? So at what point was your wife like, okay, wow I was wrong.

I think it was probably like Month four or five or stuff like that. There were some significant changes by then. She was like, wow, you’re really sticking to it. And she started giving me a lot of compliments. My other family started giving me compliments at the time we were still in San Antonio and they were all in Dallas and Oklahoma.

So I didn’t get to visit them very often. And so they, they would occasionally see pictures on Facebook and they’re like, wow, you got really skinny. So it was about that time. She was like I’m really impressed. So it was about six or seven months. Some around there. I was getting into what I felt was some heavy weight that if I was doing it wrong There was a much [00:17:00] higher chance for me to tear something I didn’t want to and just be injured and I didn’t want to be injured because that puts me behind quite a bit having done taekwondo in college injuries take you out for a while So it’s it was one of those things that was at the forefront of my mind that I knew was important not to be Doing things incorrectly And so that point, my main goal from the coaching service was primarily form and just getting that extra bit of advice that I knew, probably in the forefront of my mind Hey, I read the books, I think I understand everything, but it doesn’t hurt to have that extra like professional, that person that really knows the program very well.

Help guide you and update your information Oh yeah. You’re on the right track, X, Y, Z. 

Mike Matthews: Yeah, totally. I think there’s something to be said also for being able to really tailor it to you and your needs and really dial it in. Whereas with the books, just I’m doing my best to give kind of one size fits all guidelines that people can use to get results.

But as with anything, Yes. You can get better results if you’re working directly with [00:18:00] someone and you can go, okay, cool. Let’s really dig in and see exactly where you’re at across the board, where you want to be and how do we massage this to make it really your program? 

Cody Lee: Yeah. That’s important.

That’s one point I want to bring up is I’d actually, before looking at the muscle for life coaching plan, I was actually looking at like personal trainers in my local area at my gym. And I had talked to them, I’d done some interviews with them, but it was the same old story as you might say, and they want to put you on your own, their own diet or nutrition plan that was really expensive.

They want you to do a bunch of supersets and I was like, this is what I want to do. This is the program that I enjoy. I don’t know if you know this guy, Mike Matthews. 

Mike Matthews: It’s funny because I’ve heard the same, a lot of people have emailed me and I’ve just heard some funny stories from trainers that sometimes don’t take too kindly to stuff like that.

Cody Lee: Yeah. Yeah. And some of them didn’t, some of ’em gave, gave me the brushed off shoulder, like no. My, my way or the highway kind of thing. And, I was like, okay, you’re just not the trainer for me. Great. And the other one’s okay. I’ll take a look at it and, I’d follow with them and they really take a look at it.

And you, [00:19:00] and, but that was the main thing is I didn’t feel like I was gonna get the personalization and customization for the exact topic that I wanted just from any regular trainer. And I probably could have eventually found somebody and it really wasn’t about the price for me I probably would have paid three times the price that most full life coaching plan actually costed but it was one of those things.

Hey He has it. I know that whoever’s going to be training me from that program already knows about, most of the life, the training program, the supplements that you’re probably going to recommend and what I’m trying to accomplish from this. And it was like this is actually probably the best trainer for me, regardless if they’re here.

And it’s one of those crazy things that was like, I need someone in person, but then I really thought about it and I was like, I don’t, I just need a form check. I need to just take videos. And like the realization is like, what I really wanted was form check for what I was doing.

But I didn’t want to pay someone. An hour of their time to watch three minutes of form, right? Or sorry, 15 minutes of form. Cause half the time 

Mike Matthews: I’m resting, right? Sure. And depending on, who you would have found, they may or may not have given [00:20:00] you good advice. 

Cody Lee: Yeah, exactly. And that’s the thing.

It’s actually funny you bring that up. So when I was interviewing personal trainers, I actually would either have them demonstrate or if I had seen them in gym interview training somebody else, watch them and see if they even gave good form tips or form correct. To people and usually the case was not, it’s interesting that even though I knew I wasn’t doing things correctly, I could tell that’s bad

Yeah. Like correcting that . I may not I may 

Mike Matthews: not be great, but I know that’s bad. 

Cody Lee: Yeah. It’s one of those things like, okay, I need to find someone that’s, 

Mike Matthews: legit. Makes sense. And so tell me, how did the program. 

Cody Lee: It went really well. So I got exactly what I wanted out of it. I didn’t lose a ton of weight, but that wasn’t my goal.

I actually had gained 

Mike Matthews: a little bit on my lifts and still lost weight. So you started at 192, about 17 percent body fat. And then after 3 months, you ended at 174, about 12 13%. Lost 4 inches on your waist. Improved on a few lifts and maintained strength on other ones. Yeah. That sounds right. Yeah. So tell us about it.

How was that? So we’re talking about 90 [00:21:00] days. How did it go? We know now the start and end points, but fill in the middle. 

Cody Lee: At first, I talked to my coach, Harry was his name. He was a Brit. He’s a great guy. We talked about it. We’re like, Hey, this is what I’m gonna focus on. I want to do form.

And he’s sure. This is what you want to do. That’s great. Let’s change your meal plan. He sent me new meal plans. And it was great because they were actually more tuned in than what I had done myself. So I learned a lot from that. I was like, Oh, I was actually doing it wrong. I was actually eating too much what I was trying to accomplish for a cut.

And it was like, Oh, that was silly. Why didn’t I ever go back and actually think about what I was doing. What were the mistakes? I’m just curious. I was actually planning in too many cheat meals. I had actually over calculated my Energy expenditure. Yeah, basically and so I would I was actually about 200 calories more than I should be I mean in the grand scheme of things it wasn’t a lot but it really did help I think 

Mike Matthews: Yeah.

That’s enough to significantly slow progress if you are not starving yourself, 

Cody Lee: and that’s the part like we discussed, I was like, why are you hungry? And I was like, no, really I’m not. [00:22:00] Usually I’m like full and I’m like, yeah, I guess I’ll eat this because it’s on my meal plan. Kind of thing.

It was like, it was an easy, like easy thing to take away. And so it wasn’t hard at all. And the big thing was that forms, he’s okay, so see, similar forms. And I remember just. I had a dedicated Dropbox folder just for him and I would upload for him pretty much after every everything that I wanted to focus on.

He’d just give me very good tips and it was like week after week was little improvement little improvement And I just remember feeling After each improvement, it seemed like every single lift felt more natural. And I felt like I was actually gaining quite a bit on each more lift.

And it was crazy. My deadlifts was a thing that I think most benefited from the form checking. I had a pair, I was just like all over the place. I was like lifting my hips before I was swinging the bar out. I was doing all sorts of crazy things. And yeah he really helped me on that. It was a few weeks ago.

Actually, I broke. 300 pounds, which is a goal for me and I just seemed stagnant on my deadlifts for so long. [00:23:00] And then with the muscle for life coaching plan, like my deadlifts just started going straight up after 

Mike Matthews: that. That’s great. And that, that lift in particular, because it affects, pretty much every major muscle group in your body.

Cody Lee: Yeah, they have the other big lift that I benefit a lot from was squats back squats So I do a low bar back squat. Yeah, same. Yeah, he gave me some great tips on that it was little tweaks here and there that really made the difference and I’ll say I’m actually at 235 right now, which was, I didn’t think I’d ever get, beyond two plates when I first started.

Mike Matthews: Yeah, that’s great. And, one of the goals, as one of the, one of the purposes of the coaching service and one of the promises that even I make on the sales page is that the idea is that our clients fire us after 90 days, basically it’s not, we go in the other direction as opposed to trying to make people dependent on us for ongoing advice.

We want our clients to really feel comfortable going forward on their own after just 90 days of, again, not just being told what to [00:24:00] do, but also being educated. So then going forward, you now can program yourself or inevitably we have quite a few people that they just like it so much. They want to continue or they come back, they go, okay, cool.

And they go off for six months and they come back and say, Hey, okay, I want to do something different. But how has that aspect of the program work for you? 

Cody Lee: I would say that’s pretty true. Like I felt much more confident in everything that I was doing and like just my form, what my meal planning was like how I should add or remove cardio.

Yeah, I totally agree. At the end of it, I felt like I knew what to do. I knew how to control my weight. I knew how, what to accomplish, what I wanted to accomplish, given enough time and focus on it. 

Mike Matthews: Yeah, that’s perfect. And then that’s exactly what we want. So then people, so you can go and then if at some point in the future, if you hit a sticking point or you’re not quite sure, or you want to get a new, just analysis of where you’re at and where you want to be, then we’re always here.

But I just didn’t want it to be one of those services where [00:25:00] you have people that are, they feel almost beholden to, to you. to their trainers because the trainers have some inside line or inside, inside baseball on how things work. And you don’t really understand the reasoning behind the things that, you’re being told to do, but, Hey, the trainer must have is some sort of secret knowledge that I don’t have.

You know what I mean? 

Cody Lee: No, it was definitely not that way with the coaching plan. Harry is great. You tell me give me pointers on what to do and explain them and why they were important to do that. And it really helped fortify that knowledge and sometimes you’d explain it more than once because I didn’t get the first time or the second time.

And plus the guy, cause patience is great with him. It really did help. And, it was the whole time we were doing the discussion, especially towards the end, he was like, okay, he’s like subtly reminding me that like you shouldn’t be needing me anymore these kind of things and saying Hey, is there anything that I can help you with or you don’t understand and it was to the point It’s yeah, I think I understand anything and you’d confirm that you’d be like, yeah I think you’re good and it was great I definitely agree with You know the [00:26:00] coaching program is designed to get you to know what you need to do to accomplish your goals And be on your own so You don’t need or are dependent upon anybody except yourself.

Mike Matthews: Absolutely. So tell me then, looking back to before you started Bigger Than You’re Stronger to where you are now, how has this affected other areas of your life? 

Cody Lee: Oh my gosh. So I’m actually like a software developer at day. And before I was at a company, And it was just sucking the life out of me for lack of a better word.

And so it’s great. I’ve actually I quit that job and now i’m working for this other company as a software developer and it’s completely changed my life my attitude It’s like I wake up and working out is pretty much the first thing I do besides, you know Helping my kid up making breakfast for my wife and myself And going to work out and I come in And I’m just ready to crush the day, get things done.

If I hit a new PR, the day goes even better getting involved in my son. Like my son comes home and playing around with them. Just [00:27:00] everything seems to change. It just seems like I don’t feel a lazy piece of shit. Basically. I just don’t feel like that. I feel great. I feel full of energy. Oh yeah.

Let’s go conquer the world. I can pretty much do whatever I want now. And that’s amazing how much that 

Mike Matthews: can come from something so simple, huh? 

Cody Lee: Yeah, it’s amazing. It’s just knowing that you can accomplish it and then just the self confidence that comes with it And I feel good about myself. This summer time I think we the first time out that I’ll go completely shirtless for the summertime not just because I can you know 

Mike Matthews: milestone I like it.

Okay, great. That’s everything I had. Is there anything else you like to add to the discussion? 

Cody Lee: For anybody that’s thinking about doing BLS or Muscle for Life or even the, the Legion supplements or anything, Mike’s not BSing you. This stuff’s good. It works. You just got to put your mind to it and listen.

Mike Matthews: Thank you. As Professor Ronnie Coleman says, there ain’t nothing to it but to do it, right? 

Cody Lee: Yep. 

Mike Matthews: Okay, Cody. That’s awesome. Thanks a lot for taking the time. I really appreciate it. I know that there are people out there that are going to be inspired by your story and whether [00:28:00] they take the same route that you took or some other route is fine with me.

I just want to see more people have the same general experiences, the experience, the same benefits that you’re experiencing. And my work is one way to do it. And there are other ways as well. So I appreciate you taking the time. 

Cody Lee: Definitely. Definitely. Anytime, man. 

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