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As you might know, I’m the founder of a supplement company called Legion, and so far things have gone pretty well.

In just six years, Legion has become an Inc 5000 company with 8 figures in annual sales and close to 200,000 customers served, and we achieved most of this with a skeleton crew.

If you’ve followed me and my work for any length of time, you probably also heard me say many times that you don’t need supplements to build a body you can be proud of, which may seem ironic and curious compared to the claims of most other supplement companies.

Thus, I’m often asked about how it all started, what the supplement industry is like “on the inside,” why I decided to start a supplement company, and what advice I can share to others wanting to follow in my footsteps.

Robert Schinetsky—host of the Supplement Engineer Podcast—invited me onto his show to answer these questions and more. 

If you want to learn more of the backstory behind Legion and maybe pick up a few tidbits of advice if you’re interested in jumping into the industry, you’ll enjoy this interview.

Listen and let me know what you think!


3:24 – Why did you step into the supplement business?

10:29 – Did any of your previous experience with building Muscle For Life help you with Legion?  

12:36 – What challenges did you face with manufacturing?

17:34 – Is there any recourse for you as a brand owner when a manufacturer screws you over? 

19:06 – What drives you to make a new supplement?  

32:02 – What do you think separates Leigon’s proteins bars from the rest of the market?

37:18 – What has kept you level headed and allow you to keep pushing forward?

45:34 – Do you think the way your parents raised you had a key determining factor on how you built your business?

48:06 – How do you manage to run a business while still being a family man?

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Protein Bars

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